Episode 3.5: THE MUTUAL ADMIRATION SOCIETY with Mo Moulton

Welcome to a very special episode of As My Wimsey Takes Me! In this episode, historian Mo Moulton joins us to talk about their new book THE MUTUAL ADMIRATION SOCIETY: HOW DOROTHY L. SAYERS AND HER OXFORD CIRCLE REMADE THE WORLD FOR WOMEN. Mo tells us about the amazing individuals who made up the Mutual Admiration Society, their lives and accomplishments, and how this friendship influenced Sayers as a thinker and an author.

THE MUTUAL ADMIRATION SOCIETY is now available for purchase in the US and UK. Additionally, Mo will be on tour promoting the book. You can find more information about tour dates and locations on their website and in the graphic below:

Download the episode 3.5 transcript.

Shownotes:

  • “The Pound circle and the Hogarth Press“; Sharon’s referring to the wide-ranging influence of Ezra Pound and Leonard and Virginia Woolf during the Modernist period. Ezra Pound was a poet and editor who propelled writers like T.S. Eliot, James Joyce, and H.D. into the public eye. Leonard and Virginia Woolf, in addition to being accomplished critics and authors in their own right, also ran a literary press that shaped the Modernist canon through its publications.
  • Sexton Blake was a popular pulp detective fiction character during the era of Dorothy L. Sayers and the MAS.
  • ARE WOMEN HUMAN? is Sayers’ treatise on the essential personhood of women, originally delivered as a talk to a women’s society in 1938.
  • “RIP The Toast”; The Toast was one of the funniest and most feminist sites on the Internet until it shut down in 2016. Here’s a link to all of Mo Moulton’s writing for The Toast.
  • “RIP Readerville”; Readerville was the forum of readers, for and by readers, that was a formative part of Charis’ and Sharon’s “growing up on the Internet.” See this interview with founder Karen Templer and this New York Times article for more about Readerville.
  • Mo recounts the story of the “most beautiful and encouraging lemon” that Marjorie Barber sent to DLS in this lovely Toast article. Sharon has likewise treasured this most beautiful and encouraging lemon watercolor that Charis painted and mailed to her during a particularly difficult time:
A vivid watercolor of a lemon on a branch, surrounded by green leaves

About Mo: Dr. Mo Moulton is a historian of 20th century Britain and Ireland, interested in gender, sexuality, and colonialism/postcolonialism. They work as a Senior Lecturer in the History Department at the University of Birmingham, where they are the Director of the Modern British Studies Centre. Moulton earned their PhD from Brown University and spent several years working in the History & Literature program at Harvard University.

You can find Mo on Twitter @hammock_tussock and at their website, momoulton.com.

Episode 3: CLOUDS OF WITNESS, part 1

In which Charis and Sharon discuss the first half of CLOUDS OF WITNESS, wherein Peter must defend his brother, the Duke of Denver, after the latter is accused of murdering their sister’s fiancĂ©.

We cover British vs. American detective fiction traditions and what CLOUDS OF WITNESS owes to the Victorian country house mystery. We also talk about Sharon’s theory of epigraphs, depictions of marriage in the novel, options (or lack thereof) for independent women in the 1920s, and what a mystery with Charles Parker as the protagonist might look like.

This episode covers up through chapter 8 of the book and does not spoil the whodunnit.

(An alert for our listeners: this episode contains the sound effect of a rifle firing. If you wish to avoid hearing it, skip past minute 1:10.)

Download the episode 3 transcript.

Shownotes:

  • “The Simple Art of Murder”; Raymond Chandler’s essay on British detective fiction (in which we think he was quite unfair to Sayers). Spoiler alert, the essay does give away the murder method for BUSMAN’S HONEYMOON, so don’t read it if you’d like to be surprised!
  • We reference Edgar Allan Poe as the progenitor of the detective story with “The Murders in the Rue Morgue” and “The Purloined Letter” (full texts in the links).
  • “Love a good diagram!”; The floorplan of Riddlesdale Lodge from the book:
Picture of the floorplan of Riddlesdale Lodge
  • “She’s really like the Maris Crane of the Denver family”; Sharon is referring to the American sitcom FRASIER, in which there’s a running joke that the character of Maris Crane (also immensely unpleasant and whom none of her in-laws like) is never shown onscreen because the descriptions of her are so ridiculous.
  • We reference THE MOONSTONE and THE WOMAN IN WHITE, two novels by 19th-century writer Wilkie Collins, in our discussion of influences for CLOUDS OF WITNESS. Charis’ homework from this episode is to read THE MOONSTONE and see if she thinks Rachel Verinder is a model for Mary Wimsey.
  • We also briefly touch on THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES (Arthur Conan Doyle) as another literary reference for the novel.
  • New Zealand writer Ngaio Marsh is considered one of the Golden Age “Queens of Crime” (along with Agatha Christie and Dorothy L. Sayers). Sharon’s homework from this episode is to read some of Marsh’s Inspector Alleyn novels and see if he reminds her of Parker.
  • We touch on how the title of CLOUDS OF WITNESS is a reference to the Biblical book of Hebrews, chapters 11 and 12.

Episode 2: WHOSE BODY?, part 2

In which Charis and Sharon discuss the second half of WHOSE BODY? We cover shellshock, literary Modernism, the novel’s experimentation with narrative form, and Sayers’ interest in theology, vocation, and social responsibility. Additionally, we reveal the culprit, our favorite lines, and what else we were reading at the time we recorded this episode!

Download the episode 2 transcript.

Shownotes:

  • The Tumblr post about Poirot that Charis loves is this one.
  • Sharon mentions THE COUNTRY AND THE CITY (Raymond Williams) in relation to our discussion on the false binary in literature between pastoral and urban spaces.
  • The Sherlock Holmes story that Charis brings up in relation to secrets in the countryside is “The Adventure of the Copper Beeches” (full text available online here).
  • In the discussion on Modernism, Sharon references THE GREAT WAR AND MODERN MEMORY (Paul Fussell), an influential book of literary criticism. Fussell’s thesis is that the trauma of WWI necessitated the changes in poetic language and narrative representation that gave rise to Modernist forms. Sharon also very cheekily brings up Virginia Woolf’s claim that “in or about December, 1910, human nature changed,” from Woolf’s essay titled “Mr. Bennett and Mrs. Brown” (full text available online here).
  • Sharon’s example of the type of formal experimentation most closely associated with Modernism is ULYSSES (James Joyce).
  • When we recorded this podcast, Sharon was also reading MAGIC FOR LIARS (Sarah Gailey), wherein a non-magical PI is hired to investigate a murder at a magic school.
  • Charis was reading THE FOREST UNSEEN (David George Haskell) and NIGHT WATCH (Terry Pratchett) when we recorded this podcast. THE FOREST UNSEEN chronicles Haskell’s year of observing one square meter of an old-growth Tennessee forest over the course of a year. NIGHT WATCH is a Discworld novel that also deals with themes of justice and social responsibility.

Episode 1: WHOSE BODY?, part 1

In which Charis and Sharon discuss WHOSE BODY? as an introduction to the Lord Peter series, the uncomfortable anti-Semitism contained in the book, some biographical details about Sayers’ life, and how hideously underpaid Bunter is.

This episode covers up to chapter 7 of the book and does not spoil the whodunnit.

Download the episode 1 transcript.

Shownotes:

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[caption: the character Lucille Bluth, who is extremely wealthy, asks earnestly, “I mean, it’s one banana, Michael. What could it cost? 10 dollars?”]